Daphne Anson: "So Why is There No Two State Solution?"

Eretz Israel is our unforgettable historic homeland...The Jews who will it shall achieve their State...And whatever we attempt there for our own benefit will redound mightily and beneficially to the good of all mankind. (Theodor Herzl, DerJudenstaat, 1896)

We offer peace and amity to all the neighbouring states and their peoples, and invite them to cooperate with the independent Jewish nation for the common good of all. The State of Israel is ready to contribute its full share to the peaceful progress and development of the Middle East. (From Proclamation of the State of Israel, 5 Iyar 5708; 14 May 1948)

With a liberal democratic political system operating under the rule of law, a flourishing market economy producing technological innovation to the benefit of the wider world, and a population as educated and cultured as anywhere in Europe or North America, Israel is a normal Western country with a right to be treated as such in the community of nations.... For the global jihad, Israel may be the first objective. But it will not be the last. (Friends of Israel Initiative)

Friday, 3 January 2020

"So Why is There No Two State Solution?"

"Because the Palestinians want there to be no Jewish State more than they want a state of their own."

Now, here's a conversation worth listening to (no need to have one's eyes glued to the screen!)

The indefatigable Professor Alan Dershowitz talks, for just under an hour to Rabbi Marc Golub, about his steadfast championship of Israel, the Six Day War, the lamentable impact of Arab rejectionism (by both the PLO and the PFLP), the difficulties he has experienced from the antisemites and anti-Zionists of the Hard Left (including the so-called "Jewish Voice for Peace"), the "very frightening" erosion of support for Israel among the left of the Democratic Party and among the party's younger elements, why Bernie Sanders is beyond the pale, the pernicious influence of J-Street ("Is J-Street Anti-Israel?" "No. It Just is Not Pro-Israel ...It Tries to Appeal to the Extreme Left"), why he himself remains a member of the Democratic Party, and much more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW9cX79dPfM

However, by contrast to the Arab hardliners, Ed Husain wrote recently in The Spectator:

'A new narrative is emerging in the Middle East. New maps of the Muslim mind are being drawn and old hatreds are on the run. The anti-Semitic craze to destroy Israel was powerful in the 1960s, uniting Egypt’s President Nasser with his fellow Arabs. But now, Sunni Arab neighbours are changing course. Islamist leaders are losing their appeal — at a time when Iran, with its brand of theological fascism, poses a threat to Israel and the Arab world alike.

Polls show that the percentage of Arabs expressing trust in Islamist parties has fallen by well over a third since the uprisings of 2011. Three-quarters of Iraqis say they do not trust Islamist parties at all, and the number of young people who say they’re ‘not religious’ is also on the rise. This generation wants Arab leaders to increase economic prosperity and minimise political conflicts. And to build alliances, including with Israel.... Israel is coming to be regarded as a benign neighbour....

There are enough historical and scriptural narratives of Muslim-Jewish fraternity to form the basis for rapprochement. The enmity has, historically, been a recent blip. With an assertive Iran and an uninterested West, the Arabs and Jews have a shared interest in building a lasting alliance with each other.

This may yet be the decade of peace.'

Read Husain's entire article here

6 comments:

Mr. Cohen3 January 2020 at 15:51
SEARCHING FOR:
PALESTINIAN KINGS OF PALESTINE
by Mr. Cohen
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In our times, historians still possess the names and dates of every King of England and every Prime Minister of Great Britain from the year 899 until now [year 2020]:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_monarchs

Historians also possess similar information about the leaders of other nations, like: France, Russia, Denmark, Sweden, etc:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_monarchs

We even possess a complete list of all Presidents of
the United States of America from 1789 until [year 2020]:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States

Where is the list of Palestinian Kings of Palestine?

That list does not exist, because there were never any Palestinian Kings of Palestine; because the Palestinian nation is a fictional and fraudulent entity, created for the specific purpose of stealing land from the Jewish people, through deception.

PS: The names of the Kings of Israel are in the Bible.
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Mr. Cohen3 January 2020 at 15:53
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LIST OF ARTICLES ABOUT:
WHY THE TWO-STATE SOLUTION
IS A VERY BAD IDEA FOR ISRAEL:
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Why Won’t Abbas Accept
‘Two States for Two Peoples’?
by Harvard Law Professor Alan M. Dershowitz, 2017 June 12
www.algemeiner.com/2017/06/12/why-wont-abbas-accept-two-states-for-two-peoples/

Do Palestinians Want a Two-State Solution?
by Daniel Polisar, PhD in Political Science
https://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/2017/04/do-palestinians-want-a-two-state-solution/

Mosaic Magazine article
refutes the “Two-State Solution”:
https://mosaicmagazine.com/picks/2017/06/when-it-comes-to-territorial-compromise-israel-doesnt-have-a-choice/

Knesset members thank US Congress
for rejecting BDS ---- but warn that a
Two-State Solution is far more dangerous:
www.jihadwatch.org/2019/08/israel-knesset-members-thank-us-congress-for-rejecting-bds-but-warn-that-a-two-state-solution-is-far-more-dangerous

from the 5TJT Editor: Two State Nonsense:
http://5tjt.com/from-the-editor-two-state-nonsense/

Evil Logic Explained
(why many people like the "Two State Solution"):
http://shilohmusings.blogspot.com/2016/03/guest-post-evil-logic-explained.html
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Mr. Cohen3 January 2020 at 15:55
“In opposition to the view of the majority of Israelis and of the 2016 Republican Party platform, Graham insists on maintaining allegiance to the so-called Two-State Solution, despite its hundred-year record of continuous failure.”

SOURCE:
Strengthening the US-Israel alliance
by Caroline Glick
www.jns.org/opinion/strengthening-the-us-israel-alliance/

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“People tend to forget that the doctrine of territories for peace was used by [Adolph] Hitler in [year] 1939, when he declared that he would leave Europe in peace if territories in Poland that Germany lost in World War I were ceded to Germany.”

SOURCE: Moshe Arens, former Member of Knesset
and Israeli Minister of Defense, HaAretz, 2004/1/22

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Retired Lt General Tom Kelly
(Chief of Operations of the 1991 Gulf War) said:

“I cannot defend this land [Israel] without
that terrain [the West Bank]...

Without the West Bank, Israel is only 8 miles wide
at its narrowest point. That makes it indefensible.”

SOURCE:
The Jewish Connection Magazine,
2012 January 6 edition, page 14, article titled:
The 2012 Arab Street Driven Security Requirements
written by retired Ambassador Yoram Ettinger

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“J-Street and Peace Now and practically the entire Democratic Party and all of Western Europe take it as axiomatic that a new State of Palestine would bring peace.

Voices who point out that Israeli concessions in the past to Palestinians has brought less, not more, peace have been drowned out.”

SOURCE:
Large majority of Palestinians say the conflict
should continue even AFTER they get a state
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2019/09/large-majority-of-palestinians-say.html

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Abdul Hameed al Ghabin
[Saudi writer and political analyst] said:

“How can we achieve peace if the Palestinian people remain without a place to call home? The answer is simple:

Jordan is already 78% of historical Palestine. Jordanians of Palestinian origin constitute more than 80% of the population according to U.S. intelligence cables leaked in 2010. Jordan is essentially already the Palestinian Arab state.

The only problem is, the King of Jordan refuses to acknowledge this.”

SOURCE: A new Saudi perspective for peace
by Abdul Hameed al Ghabin, 2019/8/21
https://www.jns.org/opinion/a-new-saudi-perspective-for-peace/
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Mr. Cohen3 January 2020 at 15:56
Jonathan S. Tobin said:

“As our Evelyn Gordon wrote in a prescient COMMENTARY [magazine] article published in January 2010, by signaling its willingness to withdraw from some territory, the Israelis did not convince anyone of their good intentions.

To the contrary, such concessions reinforced the conviction that Israel was a thief in possession of stolen property.

The reaction from the Palestinians and hostile Europeans was not gratitude for the generosity of the Israelis in giving up land to which they too had a claim, but a demand that it be forced to give up even more.

Land-for-peace schemes and a belief in two states on the part of Israelis has always led most Palestinians to believe that their goal of forcing the Jews out of the entire country was more realistic, not less so.”

SOURCE: article titled: Israeli Peace Gestures
Not Only Don’t Work. They Make Things Worse
by Jonathan S. Tobin, 2015 March 31, Commentary Magazine
www.commentarymagazine.com/2015/03/31/israeli-peace-gestures-not-only-dont-work-they-make-things-worse/
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Mr. Cohen3 January 2020 at 16:04
Sarah N. Stern said:

“Like many Jewish organizations, J Street is seduced by lofty slogans like ‘pro-Israel/pro-peace’.

These words are intended to give the impression that all that Israel has to do is immediately withdraw from the territories, and then peace would ultimately break out.

This ignores the empirical evidence of what happened after the withdrawal from southern Lebanon in May of 2000, giving Hezbollah and their 150,000 missiles easy striking distance to Israel.

It also ignores the internally gut-wrenching Gaza withdrawal of 2005, where the land has been used to launch thousands of rockets* and incendiary devices launched from kites and balloons, making life for those on Gaza’s neighboring communities a living hell and destroying thousands of acres of Israel’s agricultural land.”

*NOTE: more than 10,000 rockets

SOURCE: Notes on the J Street conference
by Sarah N. Stern (President of the Endowment
for Middle East Truth), 2019/10/31
www.jns.org/opinion/notes-on-the-j-street-conference/

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Josef Federman of AP said:

“[Natan] Sharansky has opposed making major concessions to the Palestinians and said Israel can only make peace with a democratic Palestinian entity.”

SOURCE:
Natan Sharansky receives Israel's prestigious Genesis Prize, by Josef Federman of AP, 2019 December 10,

https://www.mail.com/news/world/9590432-natan-sharansky-receives-israels-prestigious-genes.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/natan-sharansky-receives-israels-prestigious-genesis-prize/2019/12/09/b2cb6bac-1b08-11ea-977a-15a6710ed6da_story.html

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Mr. Bosch Fawstin (an ex-Muslim)
warns Jews about the dangers of Muslims:

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/10/bosch-fawstin-video-a-warning-to-jews-about-the-islamic-agenda-and-the-peace-process

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When Doves Cry by Martin Sherman

https://www.jns.org/opinion/when-doves-cry/
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Mr. Cohen3 January 2020 at 16:06
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OVERLOOKED REASONS WHY
PEACE NEGOTIATIONS FAIL:
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[1] Every time Israel expresses willingness to make major territorial giveaways in exchange for worthless promises, they give new hope to those people who want Israel to vanish completely.

[2] Every time Israel expresses willingness to make territorial giveaways, they convince more people that the land does not belong to Israel, because if the land really belongs to Israel, then why would they be willing to give it away to their enemies?

[3] Israel's willingness to make territorial compromises is misinterpreted by Arabs and Muslims as a sign of weakness; and the perception weakness tells Arabs and Muslims to attack, not make peace.

[4] In Arab and Muslim culture, written contracts and treaties do not have the same sacred binding character they do in Europe and the Americas. One possible reason for this is the historically low rate of literacy among Arabs and Muslims.
Another possible reason for this is that Islam teaches that treaties that Muslims make with non-Muslims can be broken as soon as it is to the advantage of Muslims to do so.
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