tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-971541537715440752.post7571032835549301869..comments2023-11-05T22:12:50.570+11:00Comments on Daphne Anson: "Israelis Want To Maintain The Idea That ... The Church Is Siding With Zionism Against Islam": anti-"Islamophobia" Christians gunning for IsraelDaphne Ansonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12297188759548931101noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-971541537715440752.post-36272440015210233222013-07-30T16:24:02.530+10:002013-07-30T16:24:02.530+10:00Thanks for all the info - will read with interest!...Thanks for all the info - will read with interest!Daphne Ansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12297188759548931101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-971541537715440752.post-53926701413443873252013-07-30T16:11:58.539+10:002013-07-30T16:11:58.539+10:00[Greets, Daphne. If CZers like Hagee really love J...[Greets, Daphne. If CZers like Hagee really love Jews, why do they obsessively pray for a 19th-century-invented pretrib rapture instead of wanting to stay on earth to love Jews during their greatest trouble ever?! I hereby share a hot item found on the web.]<br /><br />PRETRIB RAPTURE STEALTH !<br /><br /> Many evangelicals believe that Christ will "rapture" them to heaven years before the second coming and (most importantly) well BEFORE Antichrist and his "tribulation." But Acts 2:34, 35 reveal that Jesus is at the Father's right hand in heaven until He leaves to destroy His earthly foes at the second coming. And Acts 3:21 says that Jesus “must” stay in heaven with the Father "until the times of restitution of all things” which includes, says Scofield, “the restoration of the theocracy under David’s Son” which obviously can’t begin before or during Antichrist’s reign. ("The Rapture Question," by the long time No. 1 pretrib authority John Walvoord, didn't dare to even list, in its scripture index, the above verses! They were also too hot for John Darby - the so-called "father of dispensationalism" - to list in the scripture index in his "Letters"!) <br /> Paul explains the “times and the seasons” (I Thess. 5:1) of the catching up (I Thess. 4:17) as the “day of the Lord” (5:2) which FOLLOWS the posttrib sun/moon darkening (Matt. 24:29; Acts 2:20) WHEN “sudden destruction” (5:3) of the wicked occurs! The "rest" for "all them that believe" is also tied to such destruction in II Thess. 1:6-10! (If the wicked are destroyed before or during the trib, who'd be left alive to serve the Antichrist?) Paul also ties the change-into-immortality “rapture” (I Cor. 15:52) to the end of trib “death” (15:54). (Will death be ended before or during the trib? Of course not! And vs. 54 is also tied to Isa. 25:8 which Scofield views as Israel's posttrib resurrection!) It's amazing that the Olivet Discourse contains the "great commission" for the church but not even a hint of a pretrib rapture for the church!<br /> Many don't know that before 1830 all Christians had always viewed I Thess. 4’s “catching up” as an integral part of the final second coming to earth. In 1830 this "rapture" was stretched forward and turned into an idolized separate coming of Christ. To further strengthen their novel view, which evangelical scholars overwhelmingly rejected throughout the 1800s, pretrib teachers in the early 1900s began to stretch forward the “day of the Lord” (what Darby and Scofield never dared to do) and hook it up with their already-stretched-forward “rapture.” Many leading evangelical scholars still weren’t convinced of pretrib, so pretrib teachers then began teaching that the “falling away” of II Thess. 2:3 is really a pretrib rapture (the same as saying that the “rapture” in 2:3 must happen before the “rapture” ["gathering"] in 2:1 can happen – the height of desperation!). Google "Walvoord Melts Ice" for more on this.<br /> Other Google articles on the 183-year-old pretrib rapture view include “X-Raying Margaret,” "Margaret Macdonald's Rapture Chart," "Pretrib Rapture's Missing Lines," "Edward Irving is Unnerving," "The Unoriginal John Darby," "Catholics Did NOT Invent the Rapture," "The Real Manuel Lacunza," “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” “Wily Jeffrey,” “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,” “Scholars Weigh My Research,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” "Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal," "Pretrib Rapture Secrecy," “Deceiving and Being Deceived,” "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty," "Famous Rapture Watchers," and "Morgan Edwards' Rapture View" – most by the author of the bestselling book “The Rapture Plot” (the most accurate and documented book on pretrib rapture history which is obtainable by calling 800.643.4645). Irvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07634792243846422285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-971541537715440752.post-6458414617494542272013-06-05T08:05:24.873+10:002013-06-05T08:05:24.873+10:00Great post re Iranian antisemitism here:
http://th...Great post re Iranian antisemitism here:<br />http://thealmondrod.blogspot.com.au/2013/06/tom-and-jewry-you-have-to-laugh-until.htmlDaphne Ansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12297188759548931101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-971541537715440752.post-9749813755043894142013-06-05T07:47:09.942+10:002013-06-05T07:47:09.942+10:00It would be interesting to read the comments on hi...It would be interesting to read the comments on his blog, if he permitted a comment facility!Daphne Ansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12297188759548931101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-971541537715440752.post-11718420624729961782013-06-05T07:44:58.142+10:002013-06-05T07:44:58.142+10:00Thanks, Ian. I recall from experience that it was ...Thanks, Ian. I recall from experience that it was already viciously anti-Israel by the 1980s.Daphne Ansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12297188759548931101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-971541537715440752.post-37878521843330137282013-06-05T03:58:22.050+10:002013-06-05T03:58:22.050+10:00It is worth remembering that the WCC is NOT a repr...It is worth remembering that the WCC is NOT a representative body for all the churches in the world nor is an Ecumenical Council whose decisions are binding. There hasn't been one of those for well over a thousand years. The WCC was spurned by some churches from its inception and there are many Christians in member denominations who ignore it. There are those who see it as the precursor to the Apostate Church of revelation. That it is opposed to Israel? Do bears ... etc? It is very undesirable but it is the nature of the beast. Ian Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03167511080279736047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-971541537715440752.post-5598879633340719342013-06-05T02:11:36.711+10:002013-06-05T02:11:36.711+10:00Sizer was interviewed by Malaysian TV stating that...Sizer was interviewed by Malaysian TV stating that British Zionists ( read Jews ) were closely aligned with the far right against Muslims , the ' common enemy ' <br /><br />http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=hPW1s5cNRpg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhPW1s5cNRpg<br /><br />Sizer is totally aware of the systemic antisemitism prevalent within the Islamic community of nations and he is simply reinforcing this heinous lie of Zionist association with the far right . <br /><br />What's more he chooses the virulently antisemitic Press TV which was taken off air in the UK , as his preferred media outlet . <br /><br />Here is Sizer on Press TV condemning the Scottish Church for amending their biased and misleading mission statement on Israel and Palestine ( Its not much better now ) <br /><br />http://stephensizer.blogspot.co.uk/?m=1<br /><br />Sizer is a 24 carat antisemite albeit a clever one who knows just how far he can go . However the very fact he speaks to Press TV says everything one needs to know about this vile individual . <br /><br />Harvey Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com